Club Anarchy!?

we all saw it coming, right??

ok..maybe not the "dry humping", but the lack of control.
I think we need (dare I say this...) Mark back to scare the poop out of the unreasonable members. But Mark wouldn't return if we paid him, so...
leaders have to become little Nazi Commandants.

I can't do much, since I am alumni... but it's saddens me to see that things aren't organized anymore. If things continue, I don't think there will be a club next year. I'm sure Mr. Lamers will get irritated with the club soon.
My suggestion to the club leaders:
Take one day of club for a sit down. No anime, No games and no jokes. Everyone sits in a desk quietly, removed from their friends if necessary, and the leaders will go over rules and give them a nice yelling. If they don't want to listen, kick them out. If they want to behave like children, then make Club a classroom. Leaders, you are the teachers, you make the rules and you have the power to kick people out. You might loose numbers in the club after the Sit Down, but it's better to have self-controlled, mature members than extra, disobedient ones.

Fear not! I, as leader of anime club, will make sure, no matter what, things will be changed! Don't be sad, Betsy! I will fix things so you don't have to worry about the club even when you're an alumni! I'm sorry that you have to worry about it...but don't anymore because I got it covered! I have plans...There's too little organization (which we somewhat already have...), too much organization (Dictatorship...), but then there's a Happy Middle! A organization status that is not too strict, yet not too lenient, either. I just want to acheive Happy Middle! Hopefully, that won't be too hard if we can keep everyone's attention...yet still have a little organization! We can do it, right?

plans, eh?? *evil glint* I like plans!

alrighty, I won't loose sleep over it ^_^
thanks a bunch!

I'm not even going to ask if you want a third party opinion i'm just going to give it.

Honestly the club is going to sh*t (to put it bluntly). I keep hearing "We need Mark back" and as shudderful as that sounds it true, but seeing as how that's NEVER going to happen you need to come up with a new strategy.

I know i've been an arschfich but when it comes to being tossed to the side two weeks into the year it kinda burns. You need a hard a$$ like Mark but seeing as how you got rid of the one person to do that...I'll stop there no sense opening old wounds.

And Kendra quit comparing me to yourself, i hate it when people do that.

I know i'm not a factor in the whole club hierarchy any more but i have heard murmurs from other members that the club has fallen, terribly.

I also have noticed a one-sided-ness in how the power in the club is used. It seems to me that the argument i had made in September has in actuality come true. I had originally said that as a leader the members didn't matter and that they should put up and shut up or GTFO. Turns out (as i observed from the back) that my original statement rang true even without my presence. I'm not pinning this on any one of the leaders individually but they have no been listening to their members. I receive more complaints than i think any of the leaders have. the leaders just (to the 'nubs and other vet. members) seem too intimidating to approach to voice a complaint (seeing as how Kendra is doing most of the talking).

On a final note (which can be disregarded) I feel unjustified in my removal still. Being removed only after two weeks of service seems like a blatant misuse of leader power. I hadn't even been given formal notice beyond a text message or a formal and informed vote. I feel that the removal was in haste and distaste and for the opportunity to rid the club of male leaders. I have done just about just as much as Joel would have done by this time last year HAD I BEEN GIVEN A CHANCE. I hope if you do not disregard this that you take my reinstatement into possible consideration and make the club a five member leadership.

I can haz comment?

I remember when...
I was a leader, Vice President, for a wee little anime club at my high school.
I remember when...
that club was born, a child on weak legs, stumbling about, looking for a home.
I remember when...
I took the responsibility in getting a room for the club.
I remember when...
the teacher in that room kicked us out.
I remember when...
Micah found Mr. Lamers and had a conversation that saved anime club. (or was it Mark..? O_o )
I remember when...
Micah and Mark graduated, leaving Alayna and I in charge.
I remember when...
as a Leader, I hated going to anime club every Tuesday.
I remember when...
Anime club became a responsibility, not play time.
I remember when...
I graduated and, with tears in my eyes, left the high school for nothingness, left the club to people I trusted to keep it together.
I remember when...
I visited anime club and was greeted with hugs and smiles.
I remember when...
I visited anime club and had to listen to someone's complaint about a wrongful act.
I remember when...
I wanted to march into anime club, scolding everyone for such irresponsibility.
I remember when...
I began thinking back on how far this club had come, how much time and work had gone into its success, how much trust a teacher had placed in high school students.
now that the reminiscing is done...

What the hell has happened here? Why is there so much hostility between everyone in anime club? Why the F*CK was Spenser booted out of leadership after two weeks?! Yes, Spenser is that little thorn who stabs your kidney on more occasions than not, but he had something that the other leaders lack- a sense of duty. He recognized that anime club needed leaders to be biotches, knew that there would be tough roads ahead, ones where he would have to yell at people to shut up, roads he knew he wouldn't get respect from. Originally, I elected Spenser in because I knew Nikki wasn't going to show up. I understand how life is a nasty thing, I'm going through stuff now that isn't too pretty, so I mean no harsh things towards her. But since she isn't at club, being a leader, someone needed to take her place. EDIT: I have been told Nikki is going to club this year. YAY!! That was why Spenser was on Culture as well. He had shown up every day possible for anime club, had fits on a few of those days, lack of respect for leaders, but he was there, he understood the rules, and spent much of his time looking up Japanese thingys (ex: Go... and etc.. >.>) I'm being harsh on you Spenser, but take it like a man..right up the pooper. Roll with the punches, because I am defending you.
Alayna, you're a friendly person, but as President, you don't have the power to yank away Spenser's leadership status without a proper vote. Hobo agreeing with you is not proper. She has bias against Spenser and always will.
I do not know if someone of my current status has any power whatsoever, if I'm just blowing hot air at the situation of if I actually count, but for the record..
I demand Spenser be given a second chance at Culture Day. I place all my alumni powers into action and grant him that, if such powers exist.
(but keep Kim a leader too!! ^^)

Also, wasting a week on yelling at the members of anime club isn't a waste. I can imagine that you're sick of having to run the club, Mr. President, that your sick of not being able to have a good time, but that's what leadership is about. We aren't meant to have a good time. We are there to make sure the MEMBERS have a club that they can attend once a week, watch or discuss new anime, learn something new about Japan culturally (or expand previous knowledge), and just enjoy themselves in a controlled situation.
During my senior year, things got a little rough at anime club, but then they turned for the better. Think about the people in the club now. One or two of those current members will take over anime club next year. Who are you going to give that duty to? Irresponsible, snot-nosed baboons?

Organization is the key to keeping a club together and running smoothly. If need be, make a list of things you need to cover before anime club, and check things off as you go. It would make flowers of joy grow in my heart if I came to visit the club another time and found people having a good time as a whole group. Let your love for anime bind you together as one! (metaphorically speaking..)

This has been a lovely rant, paid for by no one. I'm just a high school graduate, working at a deli, trying to save money for college, who looks back at her high school with envy, looks back at the club she helped come together. Oh yes, I was there you know. I remember when Dylan said to me with eagerness after AD2006, "We should start a club! Like in Genshiken! We could even get shelves and put anime and stuff on them."

Silly Dylan. Silly all of us, maybe. So much effort. Getting the club recognized by the school!! I never thought it would happen, but hard work paid off! (hats off prez!) I want people who say "I go to anime club on Tuesdays" to say it with strong pride in their hearts! Sinful pride!!! No one should be ashamed of anime club. I know I am. Something must change. Must. Leaders, you must be strong and willing to scold when necessary (yeah, it's not always needed ya know..) but also you must have open ears, try to listen to suggestions and complaints, try to show the other members you aren't going to strangle them if they have a problem with the club. The members who flat out ignore rules, ignore leaders and trash talk are the ones who deserve no mercy.

I wish I could be there right now, struggling through the troubles right along side all of the members and leaders of anime club. I wish I could attend every week and get a complete picture of the situation to better help. I wish I didn't have to write this post. I find all of this trouble with club ridiculous . It's very high school drama-like.

I believe I am done...
oh yes! Kendra!! I didn't forget you ^^;;
Your suggestions, comments and ect are welcome. You are a club member with the right to say what you think would improve the club. You must remember that you are just a member and you will face the wraith of leaders. Being a leader is difficult. Having someone tell you that you are doing your job wrong is like a slap in the face. I do agree with you that anime club needs more organization and you are trying to make that happen. I won't lie, you have pissed me off with some of your disorderly conduct towards leaders even when I was VP, but I can shove such trivial things aside to look at the big picture. Unfortunately, I don't think the current leaders can do so as easily. Just hang in there and try to obey the leaders as much as possible. They don't need extra members testing their authoritative powers.

Rant, rant, rant. You know there is a really goof book called "Rant".

I hope no one takes any of this as a nasty punch below the belt. My intentions are to help anime club, not to bash people with a sledge hammer. I only wish to see anime club succeed. Please don't take any of this as an attack. Think of it as a suggestion from a previous leader, your Vice President.

now then...
My b-day is on the 29th..I'm turning 19... go me. -_-

Honey wrote:

Haha, Betsy, I didn't think you had it in you to rant so much... Lol

Sadly I don't have time to write a proper response, but there are a few things that I want to say. First of, Spenser was a leader for a month, not 2 weeks. It might not seem like a whole lot of time, but imagine having people complain DAILY to you about how he was a bad leader, and he didn't do anything but get pissed off.

Now I will admit that what I did was partially because I can't stand him as a person. He will come up to me and act like a jerk, and expect me to stand there and take it, and he gets mad when I say nothing and walk away from him? I hoped Spenser had something to offer the club, and he would have never been a leader if on that last day, I hadn't turned to you and said "make Spenser a leader".

Unequal power or not, this club is going down and I'm not going to let Spenser dig is pessimistic nails and drag it further. And I would appreciate it if the subject was closed.

The reason I don't feel like yelling at the whole club is because it's mostly the freshman! They are stupid, immature attention whores. Ugh...

I didn't think I had it in me either >_> who am I????

From what I understand, Spenser didn't get a chance to do something on his day o' culture. I can clearly see him in my mind movie, bitching about this and that and etc. He's always been that way and I think a lot of people don't get along with him so they complained to you, who also doesn't get along much with him (I think everyone's guilt of the Spenser complaints) But he's a senior~ now...so I think he needs a little respect (yet he gives none) He also needs to relax, takes some sedatives and chill out. When I spoke to him, he seemed quiet upset about losing his leadership, but he still was showing up at club, maybe to annoy you or maybe because he had matured in a small degree. I'm not there all the time though, so the info I receive is outdated and most likely invalid.

I suppose an alternative to giving him leadership back would be placing him on culture day as an assistant... maybe ask him to come up with ideas to share with the leaders? he wouldn't have authority over members, and that would be made clear to him, but he would still feel like he's helping?

I think things wouldn't have been so bad if the newbies weren't so... ADD? lol I think keeping there attention is the problem. Also planning activities that are appealing to everyone. If half of the people are not participating, it's not a good activity. Also, remind people if they don't want to participate, they can leave. It's not against the law to not attend anime club! They just can't keep hopping in and out of the room during one session.

ugh I always have to work on Tuesdays T^T I want to watch FLCL with you guys. lol I could dress as Hauko, for the hellz of it.

You can do it Mr President. Stay strong and stay fair!

Thank you betsy for covering my "A-double-S" there for me.

Now i know i'm a dick, i've known it for a while. It's my way of coping with all the crap that's happened to me over the years. I have this natural feeling of "someone is always out to get me" whether it be physically, emotionally, or for personal gain. I can't help it, it's just how society made me.

Another thing, I had an exchange student that month. Do you even KNOW the amount of stress that puts you under when you're hosting someone from another country? I'm almost certain you don't.

Also (to slightly contradict betsy (sorry sempai)) I've always had a level of respect for the leaders, albeit not a high level for some but still a level of respect no less. I always respected Joel and Betsy, they, to me, were really the only two i could really see holding the club together. Nikki (though not there a majority of the time last year) has been a friend of mine since middle school and still is and i still show the same level of respect that i had all those years ago. Hobo and Alayna, thought i'm sorry to say, have not been so pleasent to me since we met. Alayna middle school i believe was the first time you were hostile towards me. Hobo i believe since the moment she saw me, was less than pleased with who i was and still am.

Those of you who know me well enough know that i do not like to be restrained, i like to say what i want and i don't really care what people think of it, it's my opinion and i am entitled to it, and most of all i hate authority. Not to say i want to do away with it, or start a rebellion, i mean to say that in the past authority has failed to do it's job in my life and i have learned to distrust it and I have always thought i could better it.

Yes, I have a sense of duty, more so than many people. i have made good on many vows (to right a wrong, pay back a debt, Etc.). At my core i am a very dutiful man with honorable intentions, though they may go against the grain of the narrow minded and self concerned.

In short just look at my signature and you pretty much get all of what i said in simple terms: "I am human clay molded by the hands of the others around me. what have they made me? Outcast by force, Renegade by choice."

I am not the monster you make me out to be (and YOU know who YOU are). I know that YOU may not like my methods, I know you just plain and simple don't like me and wish the worst for me...and i appreciate it, because i know that it means i can make you disappointed and crush your dreams with my own success. Yes that was a very self centered comment but it was honest and that's how i roll, i tell things like they are. If you a B!tch i will tell you that you are, i will tell you if you are being a narcissistic dip wad, I will also tell you if you are doing the right thing, and will tell you when to keep up the good work. the latter two i have not given in a long while.

I deserve a second chance to take back what was unjustly yanked from my hands. I feel that i can fulfill my duty as a leader and not as some hostile in the back of the room waiting for a reason to laugh at your downfall. I'm willing to be the Leader that you denied me to be. I'm not this hideous monster you think i am. The main reason i've been so hostile is because of my removal, because it was unjust and because i was not formally informed.

I'm sorry it came to this but i feel i was never given the right chances or opportunities. There is no anarchy, just bad management, and i feel some serious reform is in order. I wish to be part of that reform and bring the club back to a new pinnacle. One that we ALL, as ONE group, can be proud of.

oh wow... revenge isn't always sweet...

well, I guess just let him do what he wants... he'll probably watch hentai or something at his club. >.>

So, in other news, I started watching Ergo Proxy. Fun stuff. Cool beans. who loves downloads? Heck yes. I do.

Oh really? I heard about it somewhere. You don't need to go into detail, but can you describe it to me a little, if you don't mind? Ergo Proxy, I mean.

It's hard to explain. You are thrown into the first episode, not knowing anything really... gah I don't want to give much away! Let's see... it's about this 'utopia' in a way... and the main character Real is an investigator for the government. The government is broken into different branches ( Intelligence, Safety, and etc). There are also robot-like things called entourages and autoraves. Anyways, it starts off where this monstrous thing breaks free from a government research lab. It's called Proxy and I have no idea yet if it's robotic or something else. There are a lot of references to peoples' names like authors of psychology and theories and such. I'm watching fansubs, which is a big help since at the end of the episode they added an explanation of references. Without knowing the references, I don't think the anime makes much since.
It's quiet complex and very good. I finished episode 4 the other day but I still don't know much about anything lol. Very mysterious. Defiantly a thinker anime. You could wiki it, but that might spoil the series >.>

Krida wrote:

Oh really? I heard about it somewhere. You don't need to go into detail, but can you describe it to me a little, if you don't mind? Ergo Proxy, I mean.

That was me that you heard it from, Kim. Haha.